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The Zen Count is a 2 level system. Some of the cards are worth + or -2, while some of the cards are worth + or The actual values for each card are.


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The Zen Count; The Wong Halves Count. What Kinds of Different Systems Are There? Each card has a value to a.


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True count indices or playing strategy for Arnold Snyder's Zen Card Counting System, using the true count (or count per deck) method rather than the true edge​.


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Zen Count – An advanced, Level 2, balanced Blackjack strategy optimized for betting found in Arnold Snyder's Blackbelt in Blackjack, RGE Publishing,


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What is the best card counting system, e.g. (Zen Count) from the most profitable to the least? That depends on a lot of things, the most important thing is (IMHO).


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I don't think this is correct. Everyone is willing to help with anything and has helped me plenty so far and I've only been a member for a couple weeks. Please do it in reg 1DTC too. Like 4, 5, 6 negates J, Q, These days I'm just beginning to feel really comfortable at the tables and don't want to rock the boat. Thanks for answers. Dividing by two just scales the zen count to similar values from hi-lo. What's new New posts New profile posts Latest activity. You must log in or register to reply here.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Search Advanced search…. If round to full decks - round up or down? S Sorry for my english - I know it's far from perfect. Help me out here. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. You said to divide by 2 to get the indices for Hi-Lo. Therefor in Zen the divisor of the running count prior to division of the remaining decks would be closer to 2. How to learn Zen Count? But it should be close enough to gain an edge. The scaled zen count will be similar to the hi-lo count and most of the indices will be the same to obtain the correct indices for the scaled zen count, one would need to divide the full-deck indices linked in the top message by 2 as well. New posts. Last edited: Nov 13, Seven seems to be a fairly powerful card for the dealer. My five clams isn't my "unit" but the lowest sum I want to drop in a neutral or low count. Log in. Not an exact divisor as 9 isn't quite twice the value of 5. So I think anyway. This needs to be accounted for when doing the True Count conversion. Remember Zen uses a doubling of some card values. Here's two ways to look at the same spread. Five measly bucks min. This is where the BE comes in. But what about the TC for betting spreads? Members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. AnIrishmannot2brite said:. So I think. Last edited: Nov 14, I see where your coming from, but it seems like you are trying to convert the play back to a hi-lo count, which wouldn't make sense to count a level 2 system only to switch it to a level 1. Using index play for the Zen count will then be wrong and throw off your whole game. And where to find these ramps , , , ? If it is not so easy - correct me please 2. You just need to know what you want to bet at a given TC based on the way you compute that TC. By dividing by 2 you will lose the edge you gained by using the Zen count. I want to play the LOW limit tables. If round to full decks - round up or down?? Search titles only. For when you say the Zen count is double the swing as Hi-lo, it is supposed to be because it is a better system. I don't think we are on the same page. Mark said:. Anyone else have any thoughts? However I'm learning to count Zen better and better each day on the trainer. What about betting ramp - is it necessary to make conversion for true edge, or can I use TC conversion? TC conversion - will it be enough if I divde my RC by decks left to be dealt? Log in Register. My understanding is that you could divide the running count by two first THEN divide from the remaining two decks. It does not discard any information gained from using level two tags. I always thought the formula was. It will be easier if I write here what I'm exactly looking for: 1. You've already learned to estimate remaining full decks so why f with figuring half decks? I would be grateful for any advices. This scaling is probably only useful for people learning zen after becoming proficient with a balanced level one count. Search forums. I posted something like this on another thread. You would be messing with it because you divide by 2 then by the remaining decks. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Forums New posts Search forums. You are correct. I think Mark had it correct or at least hope because thats how I've been playing for a bit now. Anyway from what i know blind leading the blind Zen is a level two count. Thread starter Mark Start date Nov 13, Mark Member Nov 13, I wouild like to learn Zen Count - I have Arnold Snyder's "Blackbelt in Blackjack" book, but I have found that Zengrifter adviced not to learn from this book, so I ask if You could guide me to some topics about how to lern Zen Count, or prowide any tips etc. Zengrifter mentioned in the interview about easier to learn round indices - any source of these indices? Rounded for convenience. You divided the original RC of 12 by 2 because of the added value to the 4,5,6, but this is because they are more effective cards. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.